Israel and Palestine Politics Discussion
I’ve yearned for a venue where we could speak openly about what’s happening in one of the world’s most contentious regions. My background is German, so you can probably anticipate where the topic ends up when I bring up Israeli politics. That has gotten old for me, and I won’t put up with it in any of the conversations going on here. My people committed terrible crimes, and ever since then, we have been working to make amends. I’ve already seen a description of the Holocaust on Wikipedia that, depending on how you define it, could relate to the deaths of anywhere between 2 million and 30 million people. Never in my life will I debate about math. It doesn’t matter to me if it was 100 or 100 million. It was wrong to murder people, and it shouldn’t happen again anywhere. Story over. This community must continue to be a place for open discussions; however, I would prefer not to intervene harshly in any conversations that get improper. Unlike the Palestine community on Lemmygrad, this community is different. I won’t favor one side over the others. I like having spirited talks, which is why I started this community. Such talks ought to be educational rather than propagandistic or meant to belittle. I hope to learn more about the situation and hope others do as well. I expect heated discussions. After all, it wouldn’t be a proper Irish wedding without a small brawl or two. As long as the participants can agree afterward that the choice of whiskey was good, and a good time was had by all. When posting an item, please utilize a paragraph or two from the article rather than simply the headline to persuade readers to read the entire thing.
Their reasonings isn't making the slightest sense at all, so unless the article forgot to mention something entirely, this is rediculous.
www.techwontsave.us
Paris Marx is joined by Spencer Ackerman to discuss the past year of Israel's actions in Palestine and the innovations in war technology being used to carry out what the ICJ has deemed a "plausible" genocide in Gaza.
rightlivelihood.org
# Issa Amro / Youth Against Settlements - Right Livelihood  #### Issa Amro / Youth Against Settlements Palestine "For their steadfast nonviolent resistance to Israel's illegal occupation, promoting Palestinian civic action through peaceful means." Issa Amro is a Palestinian human rights activist who has dedicated his life to peaceful resistance against Israeli occupation in the West Bank city of Hebron. Together with the activist group he founded, Youth Against Settlements (YAS), he has become a leading voice in the non-violent movement, striving to create a future where Palestinians live freely and with dignity. His efforts have garnered international recognition, and his strict commitment to non-violence stands in stark contrast to the violent realities of the Israeli occupation. Amro and YAS have successfully mobilised local communities and international allies to resist the ongoing Israeli occupation through peaceful means. YAS plays an essential role in documenting human rights violations, organising protests, and supporting local communities in Hebron who live under constant threats and attacks from Israeli settlers and military forces. The group's initiatives have also served as an inspiration for non-violent resistance in other Palestinian cities under Israeli occupation. Amro and the group have been under constant pressure from settlers, the Israeli military and also the Palestinian Authority. Amro has been detained, tortured, attacked on the streets, evicted from home and subjected to judicial harassment. However, he has kept his unwavering commitment to non-violent resistance, which he sees as the only way to achieve justice and peace for the people of Palestine. ## I have three choices: to use violence and I will be the hero of Palestine for one month; to accept to live under occupation and accept to be a slave; or to fight the occupation using non-violent resistance. So you choose: everybody would choose to fight using non-violence. Issa Amro, 2024 Laureate ## Biography Issa Amro is a Palestinian human rights activist and founder of Youth Against Settlements, a grassroots group committed to non-violent resistance against Israeli occupation in the West Bank. Amro's work has earned him international recognition for his steadfast commitment to peace despite facing relentless violence and oppression from settlers, the Israeli military and the Palestinian Authority. <figure data-wp-context="" data-wp-interactive="core/image"> <img src="https://rightlivelihood.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/issa-amro-side-1024x682.jpg" class="moz-reader-block-img" data-wp-init="callbacks.setButtonStyles" data-wp-on--click="actions.showLightbox" data-wp-on--load="callbacks.setButtonStyles" data-wp-on-window--resize="callbacks.setButtonStyles" data-moz-reader-center="true" width="1024" height="682" /> </figure> ### Hebron: A Microcosm of the Oppression The Palestinian territory of the West Bank has been subjected to Israeli military occupation since the 1967 Six-Day War. The settlements are illegal under international law, a determination which was strengthened in July 2024, when the top UN court issued an advisory opinion concluding that Israel's occupation, settlements, and annexation of Palestinian territories are unlawful. The court also noted that Israeli measures were in breach of the international prohibition on racial segregation and apartheid. The city of Hebron is one of the most contested areas in the West Bank, with about 800 Israeli settlers living under heavy military protection amidst more than 200,000 Palestinian residents. The Israeli military and settlers occupy 20 per cent of the city, known as Area H2, leaving the Palestinian population in constant confrontation with settlers and soldiers. For Palestinians in Hebron, daily life is marked by checkpoints, curfews, restricted movement, and frequent violence, creating a climate of fear and uncertainty. The city's core, including the historically significant Shuhada Street, remains closed to Palestinians, contributing to deep economic and social hardships. The Israeli settlers, many of whom are extremists, frequently harass Palestinians, exacerbating tensions. These settlers, backed by the Israeli military, operate with near impunity, often assaulting Palestinian residents and confiscating their property. The situation has significantly worsened since the Hamas attack on southern Israel on October 7, 2023, and Israel's nearly year-long military offensive in Gaza. In the West Bank, more than 600 Palestinians have been killed and thousands detained as of September 2024, according to the UN. The Israeli military has been constantly increasing closures and limitations on movement. ### Amro's Path to Activism Born in 1980, Amro spent his early life studying -- and on the football pitch -- with dreams of becoming an engineering professor. However, several key events, including the 1994 Ibrahimi Mosque massacre, where an Israeli extremist opened fire at a Hebron mosque killing 29 people and injuring 125, opened his eyes to the harsh realities of Israeli settler terror and led him to seek ways to contribute to the Palestinian cause. The 2003 closure of his university, Palestine Polytechnic University, during the Second Intifada was a turning point for Amro. What started as a desire to continue his studies became a movement, as he led fellow students in a six-month civil disobedience campaign to reopen the university, marking the beginning of his lifelong commitment to activism. > "I managed to reopen the university with other students," Amro said. "I graduated as an engineer and as an activist: it became part of my character." After university, Amro joined the Israeli human rights organisation B'Tselem, which has long been involved in documenting human rights violations in the Israeli-occupied Palestinian territories. ### Founding Youth Against Settlements In 2007, Amro established YAS, aiming to give Palestinians a stronger voice in the struggle against the occupation. The group's primary goal is to mobilise Palestinians of all ages, but especially the youth, to resist the Israeli occupation peacefully and to reject the use of violence. YAS quickly became a unifying force for Palestinians from various political backgrounds, promoting unity and peaceful resistance without aligning with any political party. The group's work includes documenting injustices and providing legal support to Palestinians. They also organise protests, raise global attention by giving advocacy tours for international delegations, and support local families in Hebron through home repairs and community-building initiatives. As of 2024, YAS was operating with about 25 activists. ### Innovative Use of Non-Violent Methods From the beginning, Amro has been committed to non-violence as the most effective means of resisting the occupation. He studied global non-violent movements, particularly those led by Mahatma Gandhi, Martin Luther King Jr. and fellow [Right Livelihood Laureate](https://rightlivelihood.org/the-change-makers/find-a-laureate/gene-sharp/) [Gene Sharp](https://rightlivelihood.org/the-change-makers/find-a-laureate/gene-sharp/), and used their methods to shape YAS's strategy. One of YAS's most significant achievements has been the **Open Shuhada Street Campaign**, which commemorates the 1994 Ibrahimi Mosque massacre and calls for the reopening of the city's main street, which remains closed to Palestinians. This campaign has gained international attention, with hundreds of actions and protests organised globally each year. Another innovative programme has been the **Camera Distribution Project**, which Amro began in 2006 while still working for B'Tselem. Aiming to distribute 20,000 cameras to Palestinian families in Hebron, Amro encouraged them to document the violence they faced from Israeli settlers and soldiers. Initially, many families were hesitant, fearing that using cameras would make them targets. However, as the project gained traction and more incidents of violence were captured on film, it became a powerful tool for exposing the occupation to the world. Today, the culture of documentation has become widespread in Hebron, with residents using smartphones to capture abuses and seek to hold Israeli forces accountable. To this day, Amro trains university students on how and what to film while also urging them to capture their daily lives, including the things they enjoy. In 2019, YAS launched another initiative, replacing the UN's Temporary International Presence in Hebron after the international observer group was expelled by Israel. YAS volunteers donned blue vests and **escorted Palestinian children to school** to protect them from settler attacks, continuing the work of international observers with limited resources but great determination. While opposed by both Israeli forces and the Palestinian Authority, this project gained wide international attention and praise. In addition to his work in Hebron, Amro has helped establish a broader movement for non-violence across Palestine. YAS's success in Hebron inspired similar initiatives in other cities like Ramallah, Jenin, and Nablus. Amro has also engaged in international advocacy, meeting with diplomats, journalists, and human rights organisations worldwide to raise awareness about the occupation. His efforts have led to increased international solidarity and Hebron being recognised as a symbol of Israeli occupation. ### Facing Violence, Eviction and Legal Battles Despite Amro's commitment to peaceful resistance, he has faced numerous challenges from both the Israeli military and the Palestinian Authority (PA) while being constantly harassed by Israeli settlers. Amro has been frequently arrested and tortured by the Israeli military. On October 7, 2023, Amro was detained, beaten, and tortured by Israeli soldiers, even though he has always been an outspoken critic of Hamas and has no affiliation with the group. Later that month, he was forcibly evicted from his house by the Israeli military, only to return after a legal battle. Amro has also faced numerous legal charges. Palestinians in the West Bank are prosecuted through Israeli military courts, where they have a nearly 100 per cent conviction rate, according to the UN. At the same time, Israelis are tried in civilian courts. Despite the rigged judicial system, Amro has won several legal victories, including, most recently, a defamation case against an Israeli right-wing organisation that falsely accused him of terrorism ties. He has often been a target of the PA, as well. In 2017, Amro was detained and tortured by the PA for his outspoken stance on the need for reforms and democracy within the Palestinian leadership. They have tried to discredit him by saying that he was a spy for European countries. Amro said that defending the voice of Palestinians -- also against the Palestinian leadership, which he calls corrupt -- was a principle for him. Amro has survived multiple physical assaults by settlers. Living next door to them, Amro is subject to daily harassment and insults, conducted under the protection of the Israeli military. Despite these attacks, Amro has continued his work, noting that it's been the international recognition that has most likely kept him alive. > "It's a miracle that I still exist," he said. "It's a miracle that \[I am\] not killed, not arrested, not giving up." ### A Vision for the Future In December 2023, Amro's brother Ahmad, a key figure in YAS, passed away from a heart attack, leaving Amro with a profound sense of responsibility to continue their shared mission. Despite the violence and repression he faces daily, Amro remains optimistic about the future. He continues to advocate for Palestinian unity, a new Palestinian leadership, and peaceful resistance against the Israeli occupation. Looking forward, Amro is focused on expanding YAS's work, particularly its community initiatives. The group has already established the **Karamati Women's Center** to empower Palestinian women through leadership and education programmes and is planning to open a youth centre. Amro also works on opening a cinema in Hebron to promote cultural expression and resistance through art. Throughout these initiatives, Amro is working to keep global attention on the Palestinian cause and ensure the existence of Palestinian families in Hebron. > "When the kids come to me in the street, shake my hand, hug me and say good things to me, I feel that I'm doing something right to change their future," he said. Amro's dedication to non-violence, in the face of brutal occupation, has made him a symbol of hope for Palestinians and the global community: Amro's message of peace and resistance against oppression continues to inspire people striving for justice around the world.
truthout.org
> The Israeli occupation forces have extended their genocidal campaign in Gaza to the occupied West Bank, including East Jerusalem. Using drone strikes, troops in armored vehicles and bulldozers, their regular raids since October 7, 2023, have escalated into extensive and deadly attacks. Between August 28 and September 6, Israel launched “Operation Summer Camps,” a major military invasion, in the northern West Bank. “We watched their bulldozers tear up streets, demolish businesses, pharmacies, schools. They even bulldozed the town soccer field, and a tree in the middle of a road,” Kamal Abu al-Rub, the governor of Jenin, [told](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/25/world/middleeast/west-bank-raids.html) The New York Times. > In this exclusive interview for Truthout, Miranda Cleland, advocacy officer for Defense for Children International-Palestine (DCIP), explains how Israel’s vicious assault in the West Bank is increasingly targeting children. A Palestinian human rights organization based in Ramallah, DCIP is a plaintiff in a [federal lawsuit](https://truthout.org/articles/palestinians-ask-federal-court-to-rule-biden-is-complicit-in-israeli-genocide/) against U.S. President Joe Biden, Secretary of State Antony Blinken and Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin for complicity in genocide and failure to prevent genocide in Gaza. Censored by !world@lemmy.world
Gaza has been a hurtful experience. This year we saw the passing of a milestone, 100 years without a central leadership. The last Ottoman Caliphate, with all its faults, remained a global force and acted as a shield for this ummah. So why have we declined to such a degree that it seems our leadership is inept and our ummah has not moved over Gaza. And what now can we do about it? Dr Tareq al-Suwaidan is a prolific writer, speaker, trainer and in many ways has brought much needed intellectual thought to our age.
> 365 days of relentless Israeli bombardment have led to one of the deadliest conflicts of the 21st century. The offensive began on 7 October 2023, following an unprecedented attack by Hamas. Members of Al-Qassam Brigades, the armed wing of the group, and other Palestinian resistance fighters infiltrated Israeli territory by air, land, and sea. On that day, 1,139 Israelis, including soldiers and police officers, were killed. Additionally, 251 people—Israeli and foreign nationals—were taken captive. In response, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu declared war on Hamas, vowing to 'eliminate' the group, unleashing a war of vengeance that broke records in both scale and brutality. Al Jazeera reflects on the pivotal events of 7 October 2023.
> When political leaders speak of genocide, they repeat a timeworn mantra: "Never again." > Over the past year, for the Palestinians of Gaza, "again" has become reality - mass casualties broadcast almost in real time by its victims. > This film is about an alternative version of that reality - the one told by major Western news organisations - and how it has provided cover for Israel's war on Gaza. > Based on interviews with more than a dozen insiders, it lifts the curtain on the inner workings of agenda-setting outlets like CNN, the BBC and The New York Times. > Contributors: > "Adam" – journalist, CNN > "Sara" – former journalist, BBC > Ghassan Abu Sitta – reconstructive surgeon > Jodi Rudoren – former Jerusalem bureau chief, The New York Times > Jeremy Scahill – co-founder, Drop Site News > Craig Mokhiber – former senior human rights official, United Nations
www.democracynow.org
> The Path Forward is a new documentary that weaves together the voices of Palestinians and Israelis in their efforts for peace and reconciliation. The short film features the stories of Israeli and Palestinian peace activists who have worked together before and after October 7 and Israel’s relentless war on Gaza. We play excerpts from The Path Forward and speak to one of the activists featured, Aziz Abu Sarah, as well as to co-director Julie Cohen. “People who believe that war is the only way, what scares them the most is people who are modeling a different future,” says Abu Sarah. “Our route to freedom is a joint route.
www.telegraph.co.uk
I don't agree with this article. Someone is making the accusation that the BBC is anti-Semitic, in a place not suited to that discussion. Here's a place designed for that discussion, so anyone who's interested can have it here instead.
www.queermajority.com
> > > Imposing Western identity politics onto the Middle East is a formula for moral insanity. > > > > > [Islamic homophobia](https://www.queermajority.com/essays-all/islamic-homophobia-is-empowered-by-leftist-silence) is an issue that goes beyond terrorist groups like Hamas. While the Quran’s language regarding homosexual and bisexual behavior is somewhat ambiguous, the hadith, the canonical sayings and teachings of the Prophet Muhammad, contain [many](https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi:1456) [straightforward](https://sunnah.com/abudawud:4463) [prohibitions](https://amrayn.com/ibnmajah/20/2563). In practice, this results in the persecution of LGBT people in both [official](https://features.hrw.org/features/features/lgbt_laws) and [extrajudicial](https://www.hrw.org/report/2022/03/23/everyone-wants-me-dead/killings-abductions-torture-and-sexual-violence-against) ways throughout the Muslim world. LGBT Palestinians face [extreme ostracism](https://www.globalgayz.com/gay-palestine-and-israel-stories-from-the-land-of-milk-and-agony-israeli-and-palestinian-gays/294), sometimes [fleeing as refugees](https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-to-allow-lgbt-palestinians-granted-asylum-to-work) or even being [kidnapped and beheaded](https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-719063). The authorities also [ban](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/19/world/middleeast/palestinian-gay-tansgender-rights-group.html) the activities of LGBT rights groups. And it isn’t just LGBT Palestinians being oppressed by Hamas in Gaza. Institutional sexism is also part and parcel of Sharia Law. Human rights researchers rank the Palestinian territories among the [worst places](https://giwps.georgetown.edu/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/WPS-Index-2021-Summary.pdf) in the world to be a woman. For Western activists ostensibly concerned about the oppression of marginalized groups to effectively support the continued rule of Hamas over Gaza (to the point that they would even deny Israel the right to self-defense against the terrorist organization) is hypocritical in the extreme. > > [Archive](https://web.archive.org/web/20240905155915/https://www.queermajority.com/essays-all/british-imperialism-didnt-cause-palestinian-homophobia)
www.theguardian.com
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/20051547 > by Arwa Mahdawi > > Fri 6 Sep 2024 06.07 EDT >
www.commondreams.org
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/19853836 > by Jake Johnson > > Aug 30, 2024
www.memri.org
> > > Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas Prays For The Soul Of 'Martyr' Ismail Haniyeh In Turkish Parliament Speech, Adds: We Are Implementing Shari'a Law – Victory Or Martyrdom; America Is The Plague And The Plague Is America; The Palestinian Leader > > [archived](https://web.archive.org/web/20240816202407/https://www.memri.org/tv/palestinian-authority-president-abbas-turkish-parliament-prays-soul-martyr-hamas-leader-haniyeh)   
unicornriot.ninja
> RSS was founded in the 1920s, taking direct inspiration from the original Nazi party in Germany (NSDAP), and today considers Israel as the ideal model ethnostate to achieve in India. The growing ideological, economic, and political alliance between India’s ruling class and Israel has culminated in the Indian state becoming the top purchaser of Israeli weaponry. And especially since the current Prime Minister of India came into power, the escalation of state violence and patterns of occupation and militarization — targeting Kashmiris, Muslims, Sikhs, Dalits, and Adivasis — has been modeled on the Zionist settler-colonial regime. > > Zionism and Hindutva are two ethno-nationalist ideologies which are related to Nazi fascism. Both have found a home in the Euro-settler societies of the imperial core. > > Recent incidents in academic spaces highlight how the RSS’ efforts to spread Hindu supremacist ideology within the U.S. imitate the overall strategy successfully utilized by Israel’s political advocates for decades. To dismiss and denounce anyone critical of Hindutva, RSS elements have begun to deploy the term “hinduphobia,” emulating the Zionist playbook of accusing anti-Zionists of being “anti-semitic.”
www.haaretz.com
Haaretz confirming reports and photos around the use of the Hannibal Directive on October 7th.
