Vegan Theory Club Weekly Mega thread: 2024-10-04 - 2024-10-11
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    vtctechadmin
    2w ago 100%

    Check out our communities:

    1. Vegan Home Cooks
    2. Vegan Recipes
    3. Gardening
    4. Vegan
    5. Vegan Infographics
    6. The Bee Hive
    7. Art
    8. Book Club
    9. DIY

    The communities are here to help share links and photos for vegans by vegans.

    Vegan Home Cooks is a site for a discord server called Vegan Home Cooks Discord. This is a low-friction post-what-you-cooked community so we can share what we made today and talk about it, no recipes required. We want to provide motivation and encouragement for each other and show off what we made today.

    Vegan Recipes is focused on how to cook and links to recipe sites.

    Gardening is focused on our gardens, plants, hydroponics and learning how to do it. Some of us are pros and some are just learning and want to post what we're reading and what we're doing.

    Vegan is for general vegan news

    Vegan Infographics for vegan infographics and agitprop

    Art All things art, preferably by vegans but not required.

    Book Club Our sort of monthly book club, we finished reading Fanon but never had our final post. We're going to get that going and do fiction for September/October. Also post about whatever you are reading!

    DIY Do it yourself! This is a community to fix our shit.

    Our communities are federated with various other servers running software called Lemmy. If you have an account on one of those servers you can still subscribe to our communities from your home server and participate. If you create an account with us you can also view other federated communities across multiple Lemmy servers we are linked up with.

    Thanks for visiting our site!

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  • Can users from my instance still downvote with the API on other federated instances if I turn off downvotes on my instance?
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    vtctechadmin
    1mo ago 100%

    It doesn't seem very useful. What I see it used for is silencing opposing view points like veganism or anything that isn't popular on Lemmy and boosting US military industrial propaganda.

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  • Can users from my instance still downvote with the API on other federated instances if I turn off downvotes on my instance?
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    vtctechadmin
    1mo ago 100%

    I had someone test this out, if you use the API on vegantheoryclub and try to post a -1 activitypub like activity it fails. This is good for me because I was concerned bots would sign up and be silently downvoting things on other instance communities without me being able to tell.

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  • Can users from my instance still downvote with the API on other federated instances if I turn off downvotes on my instance?
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    vtctechadmin
    1mo ago 100%

    I found someone who is more familiar with programming than I am and we tested this. If downvotes are disabled posting -1 fails. Good news for me! Thanks for clarifying for me what I needed to be looking at

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  • Can users from my instance still downvote with the API on other federated instances if I turn off downvotes on my instance?
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    vtctechadmin
    1mo ago 100%

    Right, thanks. I clarified the title of the post a bit.

    What about users on my own instance? There are 50ish users now. I personally know about 30 of them and the other 20 are random sign ups, can a sign up use the api to downvote on another instance when I have downvotes disabled on my own is my question?

    I'm not really a developer but I will try and put it into activitypub words I just looked up at w3, can an actor from my instance vegantheoryclub.org use the api to do a downvote activity on a community on another instance

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  • Can users from my instance still downvote with the API on other federated instances if I turn off downvotes on my instance?
  • "Initials" by "Florian Körner", licensed under "CC0 1.0". / Remix of the original. - Created with dicebear.comInitialsFlorian Körnerhttps://github.com/dicebear/dicebearVT
    vtctechadmin
    1mo ago 100%

    I would prefer a way to detect the manipulators from my SQL database then doing detective work to be honest. Someone else mentioned that they can actually do this so I will have to research this.

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  • Can users from my instance still downvote with the API on other federated instances if I turn off downvotes on my instance?
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    vtctechadmin
    1mo ago 100%

    Disabling downvotes is a feature of Lemmy, I have it disabled on vegantheoryclub.org from the admin preferences. I don't know though if that just disables them on Lemmy-ui and compliant apps or if it actually disables them completely. What I am concerned of is someone creating an account, not using a reputable app, and sending API calls directly to my instance to federate to others.

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  • I want to make signing up to my instance as unattractive to bots and vote manipulation as possible. If I could turn off all voting on Lemmy I absolutely would. I think activitypub votes are spam and just because reddit used them doesn't mean that it should be required. I used forums and other websites for a long time before Reddit even existed without voting and my time with Reddit and now Lemmy has left me unconvinced that it is worth while. I think engagement with comments is the only thing worth anything on this platform and some day I'd like to see a sorting algorithm that only took traffic and comments into account for scoring. Anyway, I try my best to review the users who sign up and the comments that are made to my instance. I typically deny new applicants with disposable email addresses as well. But there are some accounts that were created that have no activity that I can see easily from lemmy-ui and I'm not really at the point where I am reviewing SQL database. I want to confirm disabling downvotes at least prevented that kind of bot activity and I was wondering if there is anything else I can be doing? I can see how upvoting fascist and western centric points of view can also be problematic by boosting a state actor's propaganda in a mirror of downvotes silencing minority views.

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    lemmy.world does not align with the values of this server and we will be disallowing federation in the near future. Please switch to another instance if you would like to maintain access.

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