I mean the real comparison is just: did she get enough votes, in states that Clinton lost, where if those people had all voted for Clinton, then Clinton would have won that state. I don’t know the answer, but even if the numbers did cover the margin, I think saying Stein is therefore a spoiler is problematic for a few reasons:

1. It ignores the very real number of voters who chose not to vote democratic or vote at all simply because of Clinton as candidate.
2. it ignores massive mistakes made by a hubristic campaign that couldn’t fathom losing to trump.
3. it supposes that people that voted green, would have gritted their teeth and instead voted Clinton, which is not a safe assumption.

Regarding OP’s argument: if Stein is a spoiler, than the libertarians are also spoilers. Since her being a spoiler assumes a majority of her votes would have gone democratic, we can take the same liberty and assume the libertarians would have instead opted for trump. If they had larger vote numbers than the Green Party got, as OP is saying above, then they cancel out greens spoiler-ness, and in fact represent a slight spoiler in favor of the democrats. I don’t really buy this read for the reasons I mentioned above, but OP’s point still kinda stands.

I’m not personally interested in voting for stein, I’ve heard enough weird stuff about her over the years that I’m not comfortable with her as a candidate. But I don’t buy the constant messaging that “third party votes are wasted votes”. My assumption with people that post these things is that they’re not suggesting it’s OK to not vote. And assumably, they also don’t want you to vote, but vote for the opposition. So it’s just the same old thing: vote the way I want you to.

Oh yeah totally—I meant that as an absurd joke haha.

I’m also a little disturbed that people trust chatGPT enough to outsource their relationship communication to it. Every time I’ve tried to run it through it’s paces it seems super impressive and lifelike, but as soon as I try and use it for work subjects I know fairly well, it becomes clear it doesn’t know what’s going on and that it’s basically just making shit up.

Yeah I was thinking he obviously needs to start responding with chat gpt. Maybe they could just have the two phones use audio mode and have the argument for them instead. Reminds me of that old Star Trek episode where instead of war, belligerent nations just ran a computer simulation of the war and then each side humanely euthanized that many people.

Ah ok so semi-official, but still a joke, thanks for clearing that up for me haha

I dont know why, but for a while as a kid, I was convinced it stood for “Kill mother-fucking Depeche Mode” someone probably told me this and I didn’t understand it was a joke.

Oh nice, thanks for the explanation

Question—I see this guy all the time as an emote—who is he? He looks like that British magician guy Darren something…

Yeah sounds like logistics support?

I find it interesting that the loaned DPRK are operating ballistic missile platforms. Makes me wonder if part of the intention is to skill up some of the army units with combat launching exp, which is not the happiest thought, since NK has a continental US capable truck-launched ICBM since 2017.

Of course the plan doesn’t work if they all get killed by Ukrainian drone attacks, but NK has never been too precious about their rank and file anyway.

Wild, the French are giving their pilots MMO pets as part of the new DLC.

That is mostly true—many of the products that contain it count as having it encapsulated, so you can leave asbestos tile on a slab and cover it with another material. However if you go to demo the tile, and start hitting it with hammer drills etc. as a frangible material it can become aerosolized and be inhaled in the lungs, where you get the horrible health effects, so you have to follow remediation protocols to do that. Obviously hitting those types of materials with explosives is going to virtually guarantee try st it gets airborne.

That said there were many applications of asbestos, like old wrapped pipe insulation for instance, where the asbestos is already in a spun (think like fiberglass or rock wool) format, and those types of things need to be remediated just for existing as they are hazardous and can leach particles into your environment easily.

If you are in a building anywhere in the world that was built before the 70’s/80’s, there is a very high chance it’s got asbestos in it. They used it for everything because it’s cheap and durable and has useful properties. Similar to things like lead paint.

Haha yeah also that.

Wild would never have guessed. Maybe because it’s possible for it to print as a continuous sheet, and I guess it comes in big rolls, etc.

Man, I wonder if it’s challenging to source a steady supply of paper for that thing…

Yeah that’s a good point. Maybe if I knew I could leave to visit my parents immediately, I would agree to meet the next day in the alley to discuss the trash bins, then zoom on out. On the other hand, I would then possibly have the deaths of my neighbors on my hands, when they inevitably airstruck the townhomes all around me to ensure that no trash bins could be left out, ever again. They’d also probably freak my entire neighborhood out by getting on our stupid messenger group chat to recommend that everyone should consider not being home tomorrow.

I keep seeing this article, and I keep thinking this is a band.

Haha thought the same thing when I read it. Some of those that work forces…